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It''s a sad time for the electronic/industrial scene, as German independant record label Dependant is preparing to close it's doors. Dependent Records is the home to such bands as Rotorsand, Girls Under Glass, Stromkern, Seabound, Mind.In.A.Box, Suicide Commando, and Velvet Acid Christ just to name a few. Here is the text/announcement from their recently released compilation "Dependence Vol. 2" CD booklet which outlibnes the whole story.

In Summer 2007, Dependent Records will close its doors for good. After we release the currently planned albums from Mind.In.A.Box, Rotersand, AutoAggression and Fractured, along with another Septic compilation, the label will cease to be active. And to put a nasty rumor to rest: we're not broke. But after a long period of frustration, we've decided this is what we must do.

The following pages will explain why.

First, we should mention that this essay is directed less at those who will are reading it - those vanishing few who still believe that music is worth paying for - than for those who are not.

This is not about money, and it never was. It's about being encouraged to continue to release music. Anyone who wants to start a halfway professional label without ending up at the unemployment office a few months later must inevitably come to terms with some financial realities, such as determining how much money and advertising can be put into any given project and when to reign in the budget. (There are always a few wiseguys who will tell you that fiscal responsibility and the idealism of an independent label are incompatible notions. Let's just say those people have clearly never tried to run a record label.) I think we've done pretty well in the last seven years; we haven't squandered loads of money and we've released some pretty good records. But money was always tight, and in the future it's only going to get tighter, because even if we were to continue to produce quality CDs, the rate with which they will be purchased legally will continue to decline. Each album released would represent an ever-increasing financial risk.

The Russian pirate site Mxxxx.ru (name edited) provides an instructive example. Not only does this portal provide free downloads of every album in the electro scene, it allows users to see how many times individual labels' releases have been downloaded. While worldwide sales of Seabound's "Double-Crosser" hovered around 2500 copies after the first two or three weeks of its release, the same album was downloaded from Mxxxx.ru over 5000 times in just seven days. And this is via just one of dozens of pirate networks like Kazaa, Bit Torrent, Morpheus, Shareazade, etc. Illegal downloads of Dependent albums outnumber legal purchase by a factor of three or even five to one.


A popular claim often seen on Internet fora maintains that the P2P culture weakens the majors and bolsters the independent labels. This is, we can assure you, 100% bullshit. Even if there are listeners who download first and buy later, they are clearly in the dwindling minority. The same could be said of those who patronize legal download alternatives like iTunes, Musicload, and Grenzwellen. Many people seem to believe that music on the Internet is "free", because it is readily available to everyone. But "freedom" isn't about everyone doing whatever they want; it's about having the ability - and responsibility - to make your own decisions. When everyone does whatever they want, the result generally isn't freedom, but anarchy.

It makes no difference to us whether we sell records in the form of physical CDs or as digital downloads, but the production and distribution of music is an expensive proposition regardless of whether or not physical product is involved. We have to service DJs and magazines, help our artists with recording and design costs, provide tour support, and connect artists with agents and concert promoters. This all costs money, but these activities are not our primary concern. Our primary concern is to find and polish a few select gems, drawn from a vast wasteland of often atrocious music, that we believe stand above the rest and are deserving of a wider audience. We spend months - sometimes up to a year - working with our artists, helping them to fine-tune and polish their releases to be as fully realized as possible. This type of coaching can turn an above-average demo into a fantastic debut which is a more diverse, professional product than the original recordings. At the end of the day, it is the audience who benefits from all of these finishing touches, inasmuch as they result in better music. So if someone tries to tell you that record labels have become redundant in the age of the Internet, rest assured that they have no idea what they're talking about, as most of them clearly have no clue what kind of work goes into producing a record. If you're still not convinced, we suggest you spend a few hours looking for decent demos on MySpace to disabuse yourself of the notion that good music grows on trees, and to see for yourself how finding and developing new artists constitutes the lion's share of a record label's activities - not pressing CDs, which accounts for only around 5% of our workload. Our primary mission is to make the best music possible and to ensure it stands out from the rest.

In this day and age, record labels deal less with CDs than with the "rights" to an artist's recordings. Whether these be realized in the form of CDs, vinyl, MiniDiscs or MP3s is immaterial. What is important is that the commercial exchange of these rights becomes exceedingly difficult when the materials are simultaneously available for free on the Internet - or in any event, when a few million morons seem to believe that to be the case. Incidentally, we are far from the only label suffering as a result.

It is actually the job of the (German) federal government to insure that musicians and record labels have a platform on which to operate. That platform is known as intellectual property law. Intellectual property law dictates that the owner of the intellectual property - in this case, the musicians who write and record the music, as well as the record labels who release and administer it - has the exclusive right to decide what they want to do with it. They can give a song away for free on the Internet, they can press it on compact disc and store it forever in their basement - that's their decision. With the advent of CD burners, P2P networks, and sites like (that site again), the intellectual property law has lost much of its practical power, and the law is in need of considerable revision. Mxxxx.ru has been around for over two years, and its right to existence cannot be legislated from Germany. The Russian webmasters could give a damn if some German indie label is giving up the ghost; their site is financed through advertising, couple with the fact that the goods they are providing are stolen, enables them to make a reasonably good living. After multiple attempts, the federal government has so far failed to modify the 30 year old intellectual property law to insure that it offers those working in today's music industry a reasonable way to make a living. If the law provided even a glimmer of hope that the situation for labels and musicians would improve, then we would keep on fighting. But the outlook for the next few years is bleak.

In the end, we are not closing our doors because of the existence of pirate websites, but because there are simply too many people who enjoy our bands and their songs who do not wish to pay for them, despite the fact that we reduced the sale price of our albums considerably two years ago. Consider this example: if 60% of the audience at a concert gained entry with forged tickets, the promoter, the band, the concert agency, and the venue would all be broke in a matter of weeks. We have lived for years now with the reality that much of our music is stolen, not purchased, and we have frankly had enough of it. A label releases music so that the public may pass judgment on it, but the label also expects to be compensated for its efforts based on the public's reception to the material. It's easy to become bitter when you notice that you're being made a fool of by the majority of your listeners. We do not lack good new bands, or passion for music, but rather the motivation to release CDs given the current market conditions. The same goes for many of our artists, who can only stand by, shaking their heads in disbelief, as they watch the music into which they have invested months or years of their lives being ripped and copied for free; as a result, many artists are ceasing to release new albums. Perhaps our decision and this essay will help to convince the public that the Internet, MySpace, Bit Torrent, and Mxxxx.ru cannot truly replace the quality control services provided by a record label. Rarely do truly brilliant bands simply spring forth from the earth fully formed, just as one tends to not find Chanel suits at a flea market.

We would like to extend our thanks and apologies to all of our artists, most of whom are already aware of our decision, as well to everyone who has spent their hard-earned money on our releases instead of simply downloading them or burning them from friends. We respect you all the more because we know you could have more easily taken the low road. If it's any comfort, know that without your support, we likely would have come to this decision much earlier, and the positive feedback was a continuing motivation. Thank you all so much! We hope we can count on your support for these last few months. If you have comments, feedback, suggestions, or opinions, please joins us in our online forum at http://www.dependent.de. Please feel free to distribute this statement further, as there are still bands and labels who have not yet lost their motivation and are fighting to remain active.

I would like to extend my personal apology to all the people who have worked with and for Dependent over the years, especially Heike, Ela, Lothar, Ned, Thorsten and of course Brigitta; to our excellent distributor Alive, our label manager Jochen, and all of their staff; to Luke and Alfred; to idealists like Claudia Schöne, Stefan Brunner, Ecki Stieg; and to everyone for whom music means as much as it does to us. Keep looking, and respect the music. Stefan Herwig, December 2006


Translated from the German by J. Ned Kirby
I freely admit to downloading music myself. I will however purchase music from bands that I find I personally like and will listen to at home in the car whatever. I see the upsides to file sharing to get the music out there espc. in small non-mainstream markets. I support file sharing for this reason. However, as Uncle Ben says, "with great power comes great responsibility" That means don't abuse file sharing. If you have a shit ton of a band in your iPod or computer library, support that band and buy their CD. Most of the bands on these Indie Labels aren't making much money doing what they do. CD & Merch sales are what allows them to make the music that you so like to listen to. It's up to you to keep them making music for your enjoyment. If you don't back up your bands, I don't want to hear shit when {insert you favorite bands name here} can't tour or make a new album because they are having to wash dishes or deliver pizzas to pay their bills, because your cheap ass wont fork out a few bucks for a CD you enjoy.

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I used to download SHITLOADS of music. Which is probably how my tastes got so diverse (in music AND porn). Though after multiple viruses and frustration from not finding the exact songs that I need, I stopped and just resorted to buying all my CDs I want. Though, I'm noticing the effect filesharing is having on music stores too. Back in Vegas we had a Virgin Records, Tower Records, and a few small record stores. Most of them are gone now including Tower and Virgin. Just before I left (go figure), they opened up a Zia Records, which played live music, bought and sold used CDs, DVDs, and Video Games. Which I thought was fuckin' awesome. It seemed like things were looking up for the Vegas Music Scene.... Then I moved.

When I got here to NM, I asked a co-worker where a good music store is. He looked at me like I had asked him where to find an VCR. He said "I just use Torrents, I download my shit, dude. Ask Luis." So I did, and he said the same thing and told me to ask another dude we all work with. He said the same thing. I just thought, "This is why music is starting to suck these days."

Everyone is staying huddled in their houses downloading massive amounts of music. Yes, they're being exposed to lots more music than ever before, but they aren't actually interacting with many other people in their city or town who like the same thing. Maybe a few friends, but that's about it. Then they bitch how there's never any good shows in their city. It's cause they'd rather download their music for free, rather than shell out a few greenbacks to a music store or record label that might use some of that money to put on a live show. So most labels just try and market whatever sells and we end up with the same ol' shit day in and day out. And since nobody goes to shows enough to say "Hey, this band fuckin' sucks. Let's throw rocks at them." The labels and companies keep stamping out bands like christmas cookies.

I like the atmosphere of a good music store. I think it's fun to watch and make fun of wanna-be goth chicks walk around asking "do you like A.F.I.?" as a pick-up line. Or to watch indie douchebags with their checkered pants, wearing scarves, constantly fussing with their driving caps while listening to Ska. Most of all, I like finding CDs that aren't carried (and censored) at Walmart, Target, Kmart, Barnes & Noble, and Borders. I hate having to wait 5 to 14 days for a CD to get FedEx'd to me with a broken jewel case (even though I never keep the case anyway).

I'm pretty much rambling out of my ass 'cause I have nothing to do with the music industry and probably don't know what I'm talking about, I know. But it's 6am and I needed something to do before I make the trek to work.
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At some point in the late 90's, music stores/record companies did not carry all the music I wanted. That's why I stopped buying from them. Napster didn't exist then. If I remember right, mp3's were just a concept at the time. The CDs I did have became irreplaceable/out of print.

The stores/record companies dug their own grave long before file sharing came about.

Fast forward to now. Wen and I buy one of everything we don't have from the merch tables at shows when we can.

Best example, Faith and The Muse. When I first heard of them, I found one CD at the store, at every store. I still have it. About a week or so ago, they came through town and I finally bought everything they had out. Between Wen and I, we spent over a hundred dollars. All those bands we take pictures of, we snarf up their stuff any time it comes out. It's the only way you can get it.

These big companies fucked up by putting tons of shit out that wasn't worth buying and as the economy declined, no one wanted to waste their money on things they would listen to once, then throw away.
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RayWen wrote:At some point in the late 90's, music stores/record companies did not carry all the music I wanted. That's why I stopped buying from them. Napster didn't exist then. If I remember right, mp3's were just a concept at the time. The CDs I did have became irreplaceable/out of print.

The stores/record companies dug their own grave long before file sharing came about.

Fast forward to now. Wen and I buy one of everything we don't have from the merch tables at shows when we can.

Best example, Faith and The Muse. When I first heard of them, I found one CD at the store, at every store. I still have it. About a week or so ago, they came through town and I finally bought everything they had out. Between Wen and I, we spent over a hundred dollars. All those bands we take pictures of, we Image up their stuff any time it comes out. It's the only way you can get it.

These big companies fucked up by putting tons of shit out that wasn't worth buying and as the economy declined, no one wanted to waste their money on things they would listen to once, then throw away.

That's how I read your post.^

I see what you're saying. It's so frustrating now, cause even with the advent of amazon, borders.com, barnesandnoble.com, and all the others, they don't have anything but mainstream and maybe a liiiiiiittle obscure stuff.

Someone needs to make an uber website that specializes in small label bands and whatnot. It could sell (or at least mediate the sale of) CD's, posters, t-shirts, etc.


(Again, rambling out of my ass about something I know nothing about.)
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TorresLLNM wrote: ...Someone needs to make an uber website that specializes in small label bands and whatnot. It could sell (or at least mediate the sale of) CD's, posters, t-shirts, etc.


(Again, rambling out of my ass about something I know nothing about.)
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